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I know murder is not quite sexual in nature that I know of BUT ON INSIDE EDITION THEY DID A STORY ON THE PERFECT family THE LONGOs --- well they was JWs and attended the KH regularly -- BROTHER LONGO skipped town after killing SISTA LONGO and their 3 adorable kids...THE PIX. of the KH they attended did turn out perfect...QUEEN OF APOSTATES
If anyone knows the name of the US or Int org that deals with child sex slavery, usually orphans being forced to be prostitues, please send it to me sudubsaarung@yahoo.com
I would just like to thank everyone out there who had enough courage to post their traumatic stories and obstacles that they have overcome on this site. If it wasn't for these unbelievable stories that I myself had enough courage to read(I was afraid I would die in armageddon for going into an apostate site) then I would of never been able to see the light.I'm just glad that I am finally 18 and my parents cannot make decisions for me anymore. All my life I've been told to go preaching, make 60 hours, do talks,blah blah blah. It was terrible!! And now there telling me I can't go to college since armageddon is just so close by that I should become a secretary instead and regular pioneer till I'm old and brittle.(Oh I forgot, I'll never grow old..sure, whatever!) And I was going to go along with it just like I always do until I started doing my own little research and found the REAL TRUTH!! Thank you to everyone out there!!! You people have endured so much and yet it sounds as if once you left that retched cult, your lives became peaceful again. Well, I know what I have to do now.START APPLYING TO COLLEGE!!!! No more lies and sick and twisted demands the Watchtower gives as "suggestions." I feel so free now. Like I could do anything!! I feel like pointing out every elder who has eyed my body up and down sexually with their eyes. I want everyone to know about all the so called "perfect examples in the congregation" who I have known to get drunk, have sex and even curse while in service(OH NO!!) in concluision thank you to everyone out there!!!---CRYING
YOU AINT TO FAR OFF THE MARK REGARDING THE WT ORG..I am not going to lead one astray and say it peaches and cream once one is outside of the ORG...but once mother and kids are away from the pervert paradise WT ORG ___ life improves greatly...MOTHERS are of great importance in protecting their children AND bonding with them and making a new family MINUS the pervert AND WT ORG as well of course and the healing begins with the assistance of a good WORLDY therapist..time heals all wounds or at least most all---depends on the individual.....(((((healing hugs)))) TO ALL E-MAIL ME YOU SO CHOOSE---I HAVE BEEN THERE DONE THAT queenapostate@webtv.net ONE DAY AT A TIME and PROGRESS NOT PERFECTION is the name of the game folks..
Hello I would also like to point out that Jehovahs WIttnesses are people and in every religion their are people who do things wrong. Just as in every other religion, for instance the many catholic priest who have been covicted to chisd molastation and only moved to another parish. I'm not sure though what exactaly you want the Elders to do. We cant sue the person and if they have served the time and have truly changed yes they will be allowed back in the kingdom hall. But only if they are repentave. We cant do much more. And for all those who are victims I truly am sorry. But plese dont leave the truth because of what one person has done or what many people have done because that only certifys that you wont make it to the new system. Plese dont give up. If you feel it nessary go to another congragation but dont give up on Jehovah. U can contact me at Semitana@aol.com
To Semitana@aol.com Yes you're right. No religion is perfect because they are run by imperfect men and in every religion such as the catholic priests have done ungodly acts and sinned against God. So what make Jehovah's Wittnesses so different? BECAUSE THEIR OWN "CATHOLIC PRIESTS"(the elders of course) claim to be authorized by God to lead the sheep. So anythng we do that could make the elders mad or displeased its as if we're displeasing Jehovah himself. They act as if we're bringing reproach upon his name when its actually them themeselves who are. What do you mean you not exactly sure what you want the elders to do? STOP TRYING TO COVER UP!!! Don't you know its against the law to not bring a child molestor to the police?!How can the elders just disfellowhipp a man from such a disgusting act and tell the victim not to go to the police? Disfelloshipping someone who is doing something IILEGAL is not enough. Disfellowhipping someone is not gonna keep that person from doing it again. It scares the fuck out of me to think I could be sitting next to someone at the hall or even have a elder at the house alone with me and he may possibly have been a rapist or molestor. So much for being safe in "Jehovah's organization." How dare you say "we can't do much more." There's plenty you can do. What if it was you're daughter or son who was taken away they're innocence by someone taking adavantage of their positon? How would you be able to keep quiet? WHat if that person was to strike again to another little girl or boy? And who the fuck are you to tell me leaving the "truth"(and that is in very big quotes.) will not bring me into the new system. UH OH! I think someone is judging. TSK TSK. and another thing! What will going to another congregation solve? I thought Jehovah's Wittnesses are a unified people who practice the same beliefs and worship in the same fashion? Should everyone in this website who have been victimizied just go to another congregation? Will that really help them heal? I just think its just so sad how all these years I've been blinded. But I'm happy also because I am at the peak of my womanhood and as soon as I graduate fromm high school I'm telling my family I'm OUTTA HERE!!! Get your're facts straight'Semitana' --From: Crying
I have been inbvolved in covering up child molesters in the local hall of wolverine mi. any one who wants to talk to one who knows write to me at george schroder 12587 peters rd. wolverine mich. 49799. the destruction of life that we in this cult have caused is horrible. belive it folks.
When my daughter was seven years ago one of our elder's sons came over to visit. Since he was the son of an elder I left him alone in the room with my daughter as she was happily showing him all of her toys. When I returned this 18 year old male was on top of her. I cannot speak more of this necause it is just too upsetting. But we did report this to the elders who held a meeting and told us to keep this quiet from the rest of the congregation and that they would handle it. My daughter is now 24 and we are still waiting.
I am a surviver of religeous and sexual abuse. I have been unable to expose my father and am afraid that he still tortures children. I am hoping to find support and encouragement from your site and may the real God bless you!
Dear Crying; I am 41 years old and have been out for almost 20 years. I admire your spirit. when I first left the witnesses I did alot of drugs and almost distroyed my life. It has taken me years to de-program. Be careful with yourself, enjoy your life and may you go with true grace. K
I HATE ALL JEHOVAH'S WITTNESSES. PLEASE STOP KNOCKING ON MY DOOR!!! NEXT TIME YOU DO I'M GONNA LET GO MY DOG BECAUSE YOU ALL LIE TO YOURSELF AND TRY TO LIE TO EACH OTHER. THANKS TO YOU ALL MY GIRLFRIEND CAN'T EVEN TELL HER PARNETS ABOUT ME!! BUT AT LEAST I'M STILL GETTING BOOTY!!!
I was raised in the truth,and most of my family are active. In fact my father is an elder,I however am not active although I firmly beleive it is the truth. I think that most of the people on this site are scared to death of where they are and are using this site to make themselves feel better about being apostates. I have been around the truth my whole life and know for certain that no witness whether it be an elder or any member with a conscience would ever cover up child molestation or any other reprehensible act. That is absolutely ridiculous. To the person who said to the other people to stay off "our turf," you are obviously comfortable being on "Satan's turf." Enjoy it. This earth won't be his turf much longer.
I grew up in a Worldly-Dad/JW-Mom house as part of a Mass. congregation during the 70's. Our congregation had a family of four: husband, wife, son and daughter. It wasn't until she got married and had twin girls that the daughter finally got up the courage expose her father for the slimy ham-handed child molester that he was. He and his wife were the most pious, self-righteous know-it-alls in the Hall. Even after his years-long lecherous betrayal of their daughter was exposed, his wife defended him. He was reinstated in less than a year.
By the way, all my earliest sexual encounters were with older women who were wives of either elders or ministerial servants. They were 28, 37, and 42. Sexual abuse? Probably not, I was 19 and quite willing. But now that I am 42, I realize that they all had serious problems.
Based on the other stories, it sounds like I got off light. What a loony bin.
To the person who posted comments on Wednesday February 6 at 1:10 p.m I'd just like to introduce myself. You know, the person who commented about you so called "examplerary christians" staying out of our turf. I would believe you are more in "satan's turf" (how you like to put it) then anyone else in this site! Let me get this straight: You are an INACTIVE 'christian' who basically believes that were all liars.Yes, you're probbably right in JUDGING us. Did I mention that you said you were INACTIVE!!!!!!!?????
Note to 'Lisa' (comment posted Nov. 30, 2001 "best friend molested by father ..." )
This story seems awfully familiar. Did you grow up in Mass.? I grew up on Partridge St.
- Buster
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To the person who commented on wednesday, February 06, 2002, 01.10.PM, this is for you.
I too was raised a witness and my family still are. My dad an elder till the day he died as well as my brothers and sisters being missionarys in distant lands.
However, I was molested by a ministerial servant 20 years ago and my family covered it up - too scared that "I would be blamed"!!!
Yes, I too believe like you that it is the truth, but I read this site not because I am "apostate" but because it helps me heal, as I know there are other people out there with similar problems to mine.
You however, are a complete moron with minimal inteligence if you think that none of this takes place. Actually, you're probably one of those people that believes it only happens in other churches!!
Well this is my suggestion moron - go back and join the witnesses, and one day when you have children lets hope this site has done enough good to protect your little person, because if nothing happened to you, there is a strong chance it could happen to your kids.
I personally know of many instances of child molestation within the J.W. organization, along with wife/child abuse from the years that I was attempted to be raised as a J.W. Anyone who makes light of an illegal act whether it be child molestation or wife abuse demonstrates their ignorance.
As well, any person that complains about sites like these being initiated "only for J.W.'s" needs to do some internet surfing and they find that there are many complaint web-sites for various religions, and companies for that matter. People really need to get their facts in order before they open their mouth and fill the air with unverifed and empty statements which are a waste of oxygen.
God bless any of these sites for which a victim can it in a cathardic manner. Individuals need to express their frustrations and feelings about any abuses they have been subjected to. It is all about the healing process. Do not read into any negative comment within these sites, only pity such uncouthness and unsophistication.
There is good and bad in all things but any religion that overtly tries to cover up and "handle" an action that is illegal by law is a tragedy.
ANYONE who reads this and has been a victim should be aware that they have a legal right in this country to talk with an attorney and should do so immediately in order to get some advice in handling these types of tragedies as well as speaking with the police.
DNA evidence is more than enough evidence in the court of law. It is especially better than any "two witnesses" who may have seen an illegal action.
Absolutely incongruous to require a child to have two witnesses of child molestation!
My heart goes out to any child within this "organization" who is suffering alone. Run to your nearest police officer and get out of that situation. You will be helped!
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I also was sexually abused from the time I was 7-14. My mother was baptized so she could marry a witness and it all started right away. I was scared but I also spoke out. It was always swept under the carpet and nothing was done to prevent it from continuing. At 16 years of age, I left home while the biggest punishment given to him was loss of his ministerial priveleges. (selling magazines behind the counter after meetings) I also informed my much older sisters that for the sake of their daughters who were only slightly younger than me, that they should keep them away from him. One didn't listen and her daughters were molested as well. Still to this day, after alot of crying and asking for apologies or even acknowledgement, I still only get a brick wall of denial. The elders completely back this up as well since it would be a disgrace to admit it happened at all. My stepfather got his priveleges back after a few months, but I feel the pain and shame and humiliation forever.
This is very hard for me to discuss, I just hope someone out there has some answers for me.I was born and raised Pentecostal, I was taught and I beleive that whatever you ask in his name beleive it and it shall be given to you. I have prayed for years that God would remove this unforgiving tortured pain I've carried since I was just a small child. Sad to say it has worsened over the years.I was molested as a child, my uncle did this to not only me but to my oldest sister and other neices. This is my mom's sister's husband.At the age of 3 I knew every thing there was to know about oral sex and how to tempt most anyone I wanted to. I was married at 16 to a man who was 23,during the time I was to be married my uncle came to me and ask me not to marry him. He told me that he had loved me from a child and he would take care of me. I loved my husband and there was nothing he could say or any one else could do to stop me. Later, the next day my aunt came to me and ask if my uncle had ever had any sexual contact with me, I didn't answer at first but then she promised she wouldn't be angry with me or tell any one else. I trusted her and told her everything. She confronted my uncle that heart breaking day and he confessed to everything concerning me. In the end she hated me.Imarried my husband and found that I wasn't in love, I was only running from the the things that had happened to me.We seperated not even a year after we were married and I ran as wild as I could. About ten years later I found God again and thought my life was on track until I was convicted with not having a forgiving heart,I just can't bring myself there. Thirteen years later I have remarried to the very first boy I ever kissed, he has 2 boys and 1 girl and I thought beings that I've never had children of my own that this would bring me to a better place in my heart and mind. It hasn't, it's worse. Every thing was fine until I walked in the bathroom to check on his little girl and found him in there using the bathroom and her standing there staring at her daddy, no one will ever know the fear that pierced through my bones that day. With in the 3 years we've been married God has given me 3 more children through social services and they have been molested and sad to say they are my neices and nephew. I am so afraid that I lock my chidren under lock and key at night just so I can rest a little. Recently my husbands youngest son has been complaining with his bottem and slight traces of blood. I'm more afraid now than I've ever been, to the point of not trusting anyone not even my husband. Can someone tell me why God allows innocent children to be braught to the slaughter, because that's what it is.
To the woman 'raised Pentacostal':
1. The youngest son MUST get to a doctor - NOW!!! Be prepared to deal with the rammifications when the doctor insists that he must report the situation to the authorities.
2. Get rid of the husband. If you suspect him of abuse and don't get rid of him yourself, the authorities will - while they're taking the foster children away from your unsafe home. If you act, you may be able to participate in the rescue of his children as well as the foster kids.
But you already know all this, so,
3. You need therapy to find out why you tolerate such messes in your life. (or it'll never stop)
I am really known as "CRYING" on this site beacuse if you were to look at my previous posts you would find that currently I am only 18 years old and up until I found this site I was a dedicated Christian who tried to auxiliary pioneer(only to please my parents) was forced to get baptized at the tender age of 14 and have undergone constant verbal and emotional abuse(no sexual; thank you Jehovah!) for never doing enough in "jehovah's service" Just the other day we had our yearly circuit assembly in Plant City Florida(by Orlando) and it happend to be 30 degrees!! Of course most people had no idea was to be that cold so most of us dressed in cool clothing. I didn't even have pantyhose on yet I was forced to broom the outside sidewalks of the assembly hall for 2 hours. (You should be happy to do "jehovah's"work the elders said to me while thay drank their coffee and kept looking at me everytime I bent down. Please don't be so damn naive. Whaen I said that this site was "Our turf" i meant for people who need to express their feeling and emotions without being judged by whoever. This is supposed to be a place of healing not a battle ground. If I had never found this site I would of never stopped Crying every night. ---From: Crying
I to was abused by an elder and ministerial servant from 1972 the time I was 6 till I was 16. It got into soft pornography at District Assemblies when others would join in. When I came out about it - it was a disaster. I was treated horrible. my mother even knew about it. I turned from God for many years - but now realize that God had a plan for my life. I have helped many people through my experiences.
jehovahs whitness do not promote such acts and those who do are wrong, and they should be punished. Any of you who bad mouth jehovahs whitnesses in general are slanderas people and you are almost as bad as them. I totaly feel for any one who had this hapend to but this world is sick and theirs nothing we can do about it. Nobody can blame jehovah whitneses in general for these disgusting things only the people responcable. every body makes mistakes its just like the united states goverment that their own prison camps for the japs in ww2. Weather they had any thing to do with the war or not they had all of their belongings taken away and they were all sent off to camps. the goverment thought it s was for the best
I have been a jw all my life. I can not believe how many people experienced what my brother experiences as a child. My brother was molested by a ms and my uncle who was a ms. I am not really sure what my feelings are about Jehovah Witnesses. I have been inactive for over 2 years. I will never get over what happened to my brothers. He is no longer a witness. I do feel that the organization does brainwash it's members. Because as I write this comment. I am afraid.
http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/WT_Evil.html
I'm sure more details will arise on the Bryant and Longo cases regarding their association with the witnesses. The similarities are sure to pique the public interest enough to bring on the media big time.
Lets say this: We've seen plenty of people get DFed and we all know people with particularly hard financial situations. But they don't usually kill their families and themselves - even witnesses understand that. BUT, can you imagine the isolation of a family that is (1) having tough financial times, (2) has already pushed away all 'worldly' family and friends, AND, (3) is now being shunned at the hall as they try to take their punishment and get back in good standing. Going through that with your family as you try to do what is right - absolutley horrible.
The public doesn't yet know why these people were DFed. But, again, I suspect we will. 'Disfellowshipping' as a punishment that one must endure for a while and then can expect to get back into good graces is an abusive practice. Adults can take responsibility for themselves. But we this must be screwing up the kids.
I am a father and even all the above wouldn't cause me to take out my family. But it would tear a person up inside. An obviously mentally unbalanced person may have been pushed over the edge here by these factors.
Spiritual bullying, abuse of all forms is a daily experience in the Watchtower Organization, a person would have to be completely blind to not see this. One thing that I have learned over the 20 some years that had been a Jehovah's Witness is that blindness is a characturistic deeply engrained in the organization.
When I was a young Ministerial Servant, the Elders had a meeting with my wife and myself about how we should discipline my 3 year old son. They told me that I should follow the example of another "brother" who regularly dragged his daughters out and beat them with a hairbrush which both the screaming and the smacking sound could be heard in the main hall very clearly, what a fine example.
I saw many cases where children were smacked and humiliated if they fell asleep during the meeting and forced to answer a question so that the parents could appear as though they were training their kids. The ears and eyes of the leadership seemed to be glued shut because I never saw anybody step up to the defense of those who couldn't defend themselves. I complained but all it got me was someone pulling out the Bible or one of the WT. publications and show me where I was being too critical or what a fine example these people were setting.
I never knew of any sexual abuse but I can see how it could happen right in the middle of the Kingdom Hall and nobody would admit it happened.
C.M. Illinois
Former Witnesses Speak: It is one thing to be at a KH week after week and go thru the indoctination. But if you who still have your heads in your butts can just step back for a minute. Take a look at the organization, its track record, and how it isolates and abuses people. You revel in the beating and emotional abuse of children. It is so extreme and you are so committed to the insanity taht it makes sense to you to keep cases of sexual abuse unreported and the perpetrator treated with a one-year shunning. I doubt this will get to any intended audience - being apostate and all. But it feels good to say.
- FreeMind
Fellow Ex witnesses. I was molested twice by Jehovah's witnesses. One was my step father when I was 5 years old. After that ,when I was 15 I was molested by Monte Florez. He held me down and raped me. My mom still doesn't believe that I don't want to be a JW... LOL She's lost
I am a JW, and have been for the 17 years of my life...I have siblings that are disfellowshipped and even they would not think to make up the disgusting bull shit that it posted here, it is clear that the majority of the things posted here are falsified and although things do happen within the religion that should not...those people are dealt with. A comment board on bashing? come on people...lets get a life
HELP!! I have 31 1/2 days until I graduate and now I am not so sure I can tell my family I don't wanna be a wittness anymore. It will hurt them so much and my parents are getting old. But how can I continue living a lie? It just does not make sense for me to keep to continue going to meeting pretending I am paying attention, preaching about things I do not practice and looking as if I prepared my watchtower when I really just put a bunch of lines. I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE!! But I will be completely disowned from them since they will go ahead and kick me out of the house then I will have no choice but to move in with my boyfriend and then I will be disphellowshipped because of "living in sin". Its like there is no way out!! No matter which road I choose to think will disaster be awaiting? Someone, anyone please tell me what I should do. ---Anti Ascetic
I came across this site by a mistake, I was looking for an article for one of my classes, and I can't even began to digest these things you all are saying about jah and his organization. To go as far as calling it a calt shows me just how much faith you all put into jah and how serious you took the truth. My heart really goes out to you and the things you had to endore, but to slander the name of JW Because thats the only way you can deal with your problem or come to grips with what happened to you is terrible. You have to know that those people will be held accountable for their action, and if you don't realize that then you never had a real relationship with Jah. I'm not trying to be crul and I hope non of you take what im saying the wrong way, I just see some people who are still hearting and don't konw how to deal with the pain, so im going to leave you some advice that I hope you will consider... after reading this say aheart felt prayer and ask Jah to help you understand and come to grips with what you are going through, also make some of the meetings, try and build a relationship with Jah.
P.S You are kinda right about one thing fornication is the only real grounds for ending a marriage,but the abuse that was discribed in theses articles are dangerous and if the wife really wanted to she could have divorced. the elders would've sweep such ungodly under the rug.
I have done my research and have found various documents including "Letters Fomr the Governing Body" which are meant to be strictly confidential.(My father is a ministerial servant.) They don't read